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This reinforces the Universal Truth coherent with God/Logic (Logos) and the tautology that God/Logic (Logos) is indeed God/Logic (Logos), as the application of the Law of Identity—to and coherent with God/Logic (Logos)—has already made certain.\n\n3: Law of the Excluded Middle: A is A and A is not A or A is and A is not cannot both be true and valid in the same context at the same time: applied to God/Logic (Logos) this means that it must be true that God/Logic (Logos) is God/Logic (Logos) and that “God/Logic (Logos) is” while it cannot also be true that God/Logic (Logos) is not God/Logic (Logos) and that “God/Logic (Logos) is not”. Any proposed fact/truth/statement that contradicts or denies Logos (God a.k.a.,Logic) is illogical and counterfactual/untrue.\n\n4: Principle of Sufficient Reason: Things must have Cause and Rational Support (Reason/Logos) and must coherent with Reason (Logos) to be valid, true, real, and logical: applied to God/Logic (Logos)—which is a term for the Origin of the Universe, the True God (the “Real Origin of Reality”) and the Perfect/Universal Method of Reasoning as it exists according to its own inherently valid structure beyond any illogic or misconceptions—God must be fully aligned with Reason and this “Principle of Sufficient Cause” as “Being” (and the Supreme Being), the “Moral Standard” (Moral Authority), and the “Universal Mind and Person” (Collective Consciousness) must also be.\n\n5: Modus Ponens: P implies Q and P is true therefore Q must also be true: applied to God/Logic (Logos): because God/Logic (Logos) implies the Origin of God/Logic (Logos) the existence of any instance or all instances of Logic, God, or Logos (Reason) means God/Logic (Logos) is true (aligned with fact and Reality).\n\n6: Modus Tollens: If P then Q. Not Q, therefore not P: applied to God/Logic (Logos): God/Logic (Logos) in any instance requires the Origin of God/Logic (Logos) therefore if we did not have any Origin of God/Logic (Logos) there would be no God/Logic (Logos) and no proof or Rationality (Reason). This is formal logical reasoning (logical proof) so we can be sure that contradiction arises from denial of the Logos (the Source of Proof).\n\n7: DeMorgans Law(s): The negation of A and B is the same as not A or not B, while the negation of A or B is the same as not A and not B: applied to God, Logic, Reason, and Logos: the negation of Logic and God is the same as “not Logic or not God”, while the negation of Logic or God is the same as “not Logic and not God”. To use a single term (Logos) for A and B we can say that the negation of Logos and Logos is the same as the negation of Logos or Logos, while the negation of Logos or Logos is the same as the negation of Logos and Logos. \n\nFormal Argument: \n\nUsing the Rules of Logic above, and their application to God, Logic, Reason, and Logos (as explained above) as premises:\n\n{1, 1 <-> 2, 2 <-> 3, 4 <-> 5, 5 <-> 6, 6 <-> 7}\n|= (((1 & 2) & (3 & 4) & 5) & 6) & 7\n\nConclusion: (((1 & 2) & (3 & 4) & 5) & 6) & 7:\n\nI conclude that God/Logic (Logos) (Law singular and universal) encompasses and is capable of integrating all logical rules (laws plural and/or particular). \n\nThese rules applied to God/Logic (Logos) and themselves lead to the necessary conclusion that God (the Origin of Existence) and Logic (the Method of Reasoning) must be and are demonstrated to be coherent (one). \n\nThis coherent God and Logic (Origin and Reason) is necessarily coherent with and logically equivalent to the Logical Structure of the Universe (Logos). \n\nWhatever someone wants to call the thing that supports/governs the Universe (God), and the thing that allows us to know about the Universe (Logic), they must be logically coherent  to not be logically incoherent.\n\nCommon terminology was used here (like Logic and God) but the substance of the conclusion is not ultimately a matter of subjective acceptance of specific terms. Rather it is a matter of the logical coherence and structure that allows for both Reality and thought/knowledge.\n\nPart 2:\n\nMaclain Hunter on the Rule(s) of Logic:\n\nThe Traditional Rules of Logic are three, and some thinkers add even more, but I understand that this is divergent and incoherent, not unified/coherent. If someone asked me what the Rules of Logic are, I might answer: \n\nThe traditional rules are: \n\n1) Identity: it must be so that A is A\n\n2) Non-Contradiction: it cannot be so that A is not A. \n\n3) Excluded Middle: a statement is either true or false with no middle ground, as even a partly true statement is ultimately false.\n\nBUT…\n\nThat is “incoherent” (not unified with, through, or as the Logic of Reality or “Logos”) and the question of what the “Rules” (plural) of Logic are overlooks that Logic (or “Logos”) is its (own) ONE and ONLY Law - its own Origin and Ruler, and the “Origin and Ruler (First Cause - God: defined as the First Principle and Cause of Logical Existence) of ALL Things”.\n\nThe Rule of Logic is: Logic \n\nThe Law of Reason is that: the Law of Reason must be (fully coherent with) and cannot contradict the Law of Reason.\n\nThis can be further described by a single description like saying: \n\nThe Law of Reason (which by Law can never contradict the Law of Reason (Logos) and must be the Law of Reason) is that Truth and Logical Validity fit and must align with Logic’s A is A form while falseness and invalidity fit and suffer from “A is not A” (contradictory) form - with a spectrum of possible intermediate logical positions, that contingent concepts can have, in between and relative to (independent and non-contingent) Pure Truth (and A is A form) - synonymous with Logos - and pure falseness (which is complete contradiction and “A is not A” form) - synonymous with nonexistence and that which cannot be logical/extant.\n\nApplication of the Rule of Logic (Law of Reason) also known as “the Logos”: \n\nTo apply the Rule of Logic in critical analysis it is a matter of analyzing, in a context sensitive manner, and accounting for the fact that x = y when both x and y equal c (as c equaling c satisfies the need for an A is A form), whether statements and ideas/connections match that A is A form and meet that requirement (or at least cannot be found in violation of it). Universal/Objective Truth may only match A is A form while “subjective truth” can be either “A is A” form or “A is not A” form, or indeed anything on the spectrum in between, but Objective (Universal) Truth (synonymous with Logos and Logic itself) encompasses and supersedes all subjective truths not fully aligned aligned with the Objective Logical Truth (Logic, also known as “God”). \n\nSelf-Existence and Self-Validation of the Rule of Logic (Logos): \n\nThe Rule of Logic is the Rule of Logic according to the Rule of Logic - which says in part but consistently that A must be A - and the Rule of Logic (Logos) not being the Rule of Logic (Logos) cannot be true or valid according to the Rule of Logic (Logos) - which also, as the other side of the same coin, says it cannot be so that A is “not A” (universally).\n\nProof: \n\nPremises: \n\nP: the Rule of Logic (A is A and Truth/Logic is Truth/Logic) which entails that God is and must be God.\n\nQ: not the Rule of Logic (A is not A and Truth/Logic is not Truth/Logic) which entails that God is not and does not need to be God.\n\nArgument:\n\n{P, P <-> P, P <-> ~Q} |= P & ~Q\n\nProof of Contradiction: \n\nAssume (P & Q) or {P, P -> Q} |= P and it leads to logical contradiction. It amounts to saying Logic is “not Logic” which is not Logic (Valid Order and Reasoning). To assume God (Logos) is not God (Logic) would mean that God’s output (Reality - All Existence) is not Reality (what Logic entails).\n\nConclusion:\n\nP & ~Q must be so while P & Q or P then Q cannot be so, according to Logic and P. God is God as Logic is Logic. I am that I am and cannot be “not me”. Truly it is part of the Rule of Logic and what it encompasses/entails that Logic is God since the Rule of Logic is Logic and is what makes Logic and All Things including Logic, the First Cause, and the True God (God) be Logic and All Things including Logic, the First Cause, and the True God (God). To separate God and Logic or deny Logic is God is to violate the Rule of Logic and embrace illogic, unresolved paradox, contradiction, and (rational) lawlessness. This is a Logos (Logic) aligned Objective Truth (Logic), as the True God (Logos) is a Logic (Logos) aligned God, and that supersedes, as a matter of Logic and the application of the Rule of Logic, all subjective opinions or views that may be contrary to the Rule of Logic or only partially aligned with Reason as Law (the Rule of Logic). \n\nPart 3: \n\nLogic Applied to Logic and Science:\n\nLogic Applied to Logic (LL):\n\nPremises:\n\nP: Identity: Logic is Logic\n\nQ: Non-Contradiction: Logic can’t be “not Logic”\n\nR: Excluded Middle: Logic is true and can’t be true and false at once.\n\nProof: \n\n{P <-> Q, Q <-> R} |= (P <-> Q) & (Q <-> R)\n\nConclusion: {P, Q, R}: \n\nLogic is must be Logic and must be true and cannot be “not Logic” or no true, according to Logic and the proper application of Logic to Logic itself.\n\nTruth Table: \n\nvalid\n\n     ↓   ↓       ↓      \n\nPQR⎪P↔Q Q↔R╞(P↔Q)&(Q↔R)\n\n――――――――――――――――――――――――\n\nTTT⎪TTT TTT  TTT T TTT \nTTF⎪TTT TFF  TTT F TFF \nTFT⎪TFF FFT  TFF F FFT \nTFF⎪TFF FTF  TFF F FTF \nFTT⎪FFT TTT  FFT F TTT \nFTF⎪FFT TFF  FFT F TFF \nFFT⎪FTF FFT  FTF F FFT \nFFF⎪FTF FTF  FTF T FTF \n\nLogic Applied to Science (LS): \n\nPremises: \n\nP: Question: This is the first step of the traditional scientific process that involves researching a problem or problems that the scientific method might be meaningfully applied to. This step is well aligned with Logic and breaks none of the three traditional Rules of Logic. \n\nQ: Form Hypothesis: This second step aligns with Logic well also and involves the scientist predicting what the expected outcome of the experimentation will be when applied to a particular question. This step helps to later understand whether predictions made with logical reasoning end up matching empirically observed Reality which can be useful in helping us to align our personal reasoning (“our logics”) with the Order inherent in Reality (“THE Logic” - the Logos - Objective Reason).\n\nR: Testing/Experimentation: Design test(s) in logically coherent fashion and perform the test(s) in a valid and consistent fashion. This step encompasses all feasible “logical valid testing methods” and gives broad leeway to scientific experimentation to achieve logically valid and scientifically rigorous results. The key thing that makes testing and experimentation valid and reliable is the combination of logical coherence and scientific rigor, which includes the notion that the more iterative one’s testing is the more reliable their results can be considered to be.\n\nS: Analyze Data and Report Conclusions: Gather and apply Logic to the experimental data to notice logical inconsistencies or flaws in the process, as well as to determine whether the results confirmed the hypothesis (and why or why not). These results and the relevant data supporting conclusions can and should be used to determine and report the conclusion(s) in a formal manner. This step is also logically relevant and coherent at this stage of the process, as it is the final step in gaining knowledge through a logically grounded scientific process. This step, like the others in the traditional scientific method aligns well with and doesn’t not contradict itself (internal consistency) or Logic (logical consistency). \n\nT: Assume the well ordered application of the scientific method as outlined in premises P, Q, R, and S was logically invalid and could not help us (scientists, logicians, etc.) gain knowledge. This assumption leads to logical contradiction where logically coherent science contradicts Logic - an untenable and unscientific position to hold, refuted by the usefulness of Science and all logically and scientifically valid results in Logic and Science.\n\nFormal Argument (Proof): \n\n{P, P -> Q, Q -> R, R -> S, S -> T} |= ((P & Q) & (R & S)) & T \n\nConclusion: \n\nThe steps of the traditional scientific method, represented by the atomic sentences {P, Q, R, S, T} flow logically one into the next, and each satisfy and do not violate Logic (as validated logically above), and this allows for coherent Science which is the logical derivation of knowledge through coherent empirical observation of controlled testing. If logically coherent Science were not a logically valid and scientific means of understanding Reality that would contradict Logic - thus we know it cannot be so and that logically coherent Science is reliable, logical, and valid. Logic remains the “Logical Standard” in Science just as the scientific method is the scientific method within Logic.\n\nTruth Table: \n\nvalid\n\n      ↓  ↓   ↓   ↓   ↓               ↓  \n\nPQRST⎪P P→Q Q→R R→S S→T╞((P&Q)&(R&S))&T\n\n――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――\n\nTTTTT⎪T TTT TTT TTT TTT   TTT T TTT  TT\nTTTTF⎪T TTT TTT TTT TFF   TTT T TTT  FF\nTTTFT⎪T TTT TTT TFF FTT   TTT F TFF  FT\nTTTFF⎪T TTT TTT TFF FTF   TTT F TFF  FF\nTTFTT⎪T TTT TFF FTT TTT   TTT F FFT  FT\nTTFTF⎪T TTT TFF FTT TFF   TTT F FFT  FF\nTTFFT⎪T TTT TFF FTF FTT   TTT F FFF  FT\nTTFFF⎪T TTT TFF FTF FTF   TTT F FFF  FF\nTFTTT⎪T TFF FTT TTT TTT   TFF F TTT  FT\nTFTTF⎪T TFF FTT TTT TFF   TFF F TTT  FF\nTFTFT⎪T TFF FTT TFF FTT   TFF F TFF  FT\nTFTFF⎪T TFF FTT TFF FTF   TFF F TFF  FF\nTFFTT⎪T TFF FTF FTT TTT   TFF F FFT  FT\nTFFTF⎪T TFF FTF FTT TFF   TFF F FFT  FF\nTFFFT⎪T TFF FTF FTF FTT   TFF F FFF  FT\nTFFFF⎪T TFF FTF FTF FTF   TFF F FFF  FF\nFTTTT⎪F FTT TTT TTT TTT   FFT F TTT  FT\nFTTTF⎪F FTT TTT TTT TFF   FFT F TTT  FF\nFTTFT⎪F FTT TTT TFF FTT   FFT F TFF  FT\nFTTFF⎪F FTT TTT TFF FTF   FFT F TFF  FF\nFTFTT⎪F FTT TFF FTT TTT   FFT F FFT  FT\nFTFTF⎪F FTT TFF FTT TFF   FFT F FFT  FF\nFTFFT⎪F FTT TFF FTF FTT   FFT F FFF  FT\nFTFFF⎪F FTT TFF FTF FTF   FFT F FFF  FF\nFFTTT⎪F FTF FTT TTT TTT   FFF F TTT  FT\nFFTTF⎪F FTF FTT TTT TFF   FFF F TTT  FF\nFFTFT⎪F FTF FTT TFF FTT   FFF F TFF  FT\nFFTFF⎪F FTF FTT TFF FTF   FFF F TFF  FF\nFFFTT⎪F FTF FTF FTT TTT   FFF F FFT  FT\nFFFTF⎪F FTF FTF FTT TFF   FFF F FFT  FF\nFFFFT⎪F FTF FTF FTF FTT   FFF F FFF  FT\nFFFFF⎪F FTF FTF FTF FTF   FFF F FFF  FF\n\nMeta-Proof (LL <-> LS): \n\nLL: Logic applied to Logic and the Logic of Logic.\n\nLS: Logic applied to Science and the Logic of Science.\n\n{LL <-> LS} |= LL & LS\n\nConclusion: \n\nLL & LS entails “Coherent Science and Logic”, validated formally by Logic. Logic remains the “Logical Standard” in Science just as the scientific method is the scientific method within Logic.\n\nPart 4:\n\nProof of Proof’s Source in Logic: \n\nDefinitions: \n\nLogic: the Method of Reasoning and Realization; the Order inherent in Proper Order and self-consistency.\n\nGod: the Origin and Ruler of the Cosmos; the Logos (Pure Reason - Universal Order and Logic) in rational theism and classical theology. \n\nP: Proof exists. \n\nQ: Assume P is not true, that leads to logical contradiction and wouldn’t be possible to prove (then).\n\nR: Even if “nothing” (pure illogicality) were “the Source of Proof”, the Source of Proof would still be and have to be “something”. \n\nR: The Source of Proof must be logically coherent or it is logically incoherent. An incoherent Source of Proof would be a logical contradiction. \n\nS: The Source of Proof is Logic, and is fully coherent, as the alternative that the Source of Proof is “not Logic” and “not coherent/one with Logic” is illogical and untenable.\n\nT: The Source of Proof is the Source of Rational Support and Rationality (Reality) in/underlying the Universe, as to assume the opposite or any true (substantive) alternative leads to logical contradiction.\n\nU: All proof is entailed by and proves the existence of the Source of Proof (Logic - the First Cause). To have proof in hand without the Source of Proof objectively extant in and encompassing the (rationally supported) Cosmos would be a logical contradiction. This proof itself could not exist without the Source of Proof and is therefore empirical evidence of the Logic encompassing Reality (the First Cause).\n\nV: The Source of Reality (the Origin of the Universe - God) is and must be coherent with Rational Law (Logic - Reason - Identity) to establish coherence at/as the Universal Foundation (First Cause), and in order for the rest of the Natural Order (Logic) to be logical and logically founded. \n\n{P, P -> Q, Q -> R, R -> S, S -> T, T -> U, U -> V} |= (((P & Q) & (R & S) & T) & U) & V\n\nConclusion: (((P & Q) & (R & S) & T) & U) & V:\n\nLogic is the Source of Proof, the First Cause, and God, and all proof immanently and intrinsically proves that, even if not every proof explicitly proves such things. That is true of all proof, including this proof itself. This proof is empirical evidence (and observable/observed proof) that the Logic of Reality (also understood as the First Cause) surely exists. \n\nFor this proof to exist without the First Cause of Logic (the Foundation of Logic and Reality - God) would be a logical contradiction. Logic and language demand God be the Foundation of Reality (by definition and to satisfy and be coherent with Logic), and that God and Logic must be coherent for both to be properly grounded and coherent. \n\nFinal Part: Meta-Proof: \n\nP1: Part 1: [see above]\n\nP2: Part 2: [see above]\n\nP3: Part 3: [see above]\n\nP4: Part 5 [see above]\n\nFormal Argument (Proof): \n\n{P1, P2, P3, P4} |= (P1 & P2) & (P3 & P4)\n\nConclusion: (P1 & P2) & (P3 & P4)\n\nThe combination of all the proofs and formal philosophical treatises above holds, as to deny any piece denies Logic and to acknowledge any piece acknowledges Logic. To acknowledge the very existence of this writing is to acknowledge what could not exist if the Logos did not exist. Any such engagement or acknowledgement means that the rest of the arguments and the Meta-Proof follows logically and that God is Logic - inherent in all logics and sciences, and all instances (and the general concept(s)) of evidence and proof. This proof could not even be invalid if there is no Logos (Logical Standard coherent with the Origin of Logic). ","sha256":"9a721430954eafb053405f7db703d2158b367d1000a39c0598cf1e3e3b8f913a","sourceUrl":"/proof-knowledge/hunter-rules-of-logic-science-proof","studyUrl":"/api/proofs/rules-of-logic/study","label":"The Rule(s) of Logic and Logic Applied to Logic, Science, and Proof","storedValidationStatus":"configured-diagnostic-positive"},{"author":"Maclain Hunter","text":"Maclain Hunter on the Rule(s) of Logic:\n\nThe Traditional Rules of Logic are three, and some thinkers add even more, but I understand that this is divergent and incoherent, not unified/coherent. If someone asked me what the Rules of Logic are, I might answer: \n\nThe traditional rules are: \n\n1) Identity: it must be so that A is A\n\n2) Non-Contradiction: it cannot be so that A is not A. \n\n3) Excluded Middle: a statement is either true or false with no middle ground, as even a partly true statement is ultimately false.\n\nBUT…\n\nThat is “incoherent” (not unified with, through, or as the Logic of Reality or “Logos”) and the question of what the “Rules” (plural) of Logic are overlooks that Logic (or “Logos”) is its (own) ONE and ONLY Law - its own Origin and Ruler, and the “Origin and Ruler (First Cause - God: defined as the First Principle and Cause of Logical Existence) of ALL Things”.\n\nThe Rule of Logic is: Logic \n\nThe Law of Reason is that: the Law of Reason must be (fully coherent with) and cannot contradict the Law of Reason.\n\nThis can be further described by a single description like saying: \n\nThe Law of Reason (which by Law can never contradict the Law of Reason (Logos) and must be the Law of Reason) is that Truth and Logical Validity fit and must align with Logic’s A is A form while falseness and invalidity fit and suffer from “A is not A” (contradictory) form - with a spectrum of possible intermediate logical positions, that contingent concepts can have, in between and relative to (independent and non-contingent) Pure Truth (and A is A form) - synonymous with Logos - and pure falseness (which is complete contradiction and “A is not A” form) - synonymous with nonexistence and that which cannot be logical/extant.\n\nApplication of the Rule of Logic (Law of Reason) also known as “the Logos”: \n\nTo apply the Rule of Logic in critical analysis it is a matter of analyzing, in a context sensitive manner, and accounting for the fact that x = y when both x and y equal c (as c equaling c satisfies the need for an A is A form), whether statements and ideas/connections match that A is A form and meet that requirement (or at least cannot be found in violation of it). Universal/Objective Truth may only match A is A form while “subjective truth” can be either “A is A” form or “A is not A” form, or indeed anything on the spectrum in between, but Objective (Universal) Truth (synonymous with Logos and Logic itself) encompasses and supersedes all subjective truths not fully aligned aligned with the Objective Logical Truth (Logic, also known as “God”). \n\nSelf-Existence and Self-Validation of the Rule of Logic (Logos): \n\nThe Rule of Logic is the Rule of Logic according to the Rule of Logic - which says in part but consistently that A must be A - and the Rule of Logic (Logos) not being the Rule of Logic (Logos) cannot be true or valid according to the Rule of Logic (Logos) - which also, as the other side of the same coin, says it cannot be so that A is “not A” (universally).\n\nProof: \n\nPremises: \n\nP: the Rule of Logic (A is A and Truth/Logic is Truth/Logic) which entails that God is and must be God.\n\nQ: not the Rule of Logic (A is not A and Truth/Logic is not Truth/Logic) which entails that God is not and does not need to be God.\n\nArgument:\n\n{P, P <-> P, P <-> ~Q} |= P & ~Q\n\nProof of Contradiction: \n\nAssume (P & Q) or {P, P -> Q} |= P and it leads to logical contradiction. It amounts to saying Logic is “not Logic” which is not Logic (Valid Order and Reasoning). To assume God (Logos) is not God (Logic) would mean that God’s output (Reality - All Existence) is not Reality (what Logic entails).\n\nConclusion:\n\nP & ~Q must be so while P & Q or P then Q cannot be so, according to Logic and P. God is God as Logic is Logic. I am that I am and cannot be “not me”. Truly it is part of the Rule of Logic and what it encompasses/entails that Logic is God since the Rule of Logic is Logic and is what makes Logic and All Things including Logic, the First Cause, and the True God (God) be Logic and All Things including Logic, the First Cause, and the True God (God). To separate God and Logic or deny Logic is God is to violate the Rule of Logic and embrace illogic, unresolved paradox, contradiction, and (rational) lawlessness. This is a Logos (Logic) aligned Objective Truth (Logic), as the True God (Logos) is a Logic (Logos) aligned God, and that supersedes, as a matter of Logic and the application of the Rule of Logic, all subjective opinions or views that may be contrary to the Rule of Logic or only partially aligned with Reason as Law (the Rule of Logic). ","sha256":"707c4b3984ce0ea522dba2757bfa7e8dda4043d48f14992b36bc297d799aa47e","sourceUrl":"/proof-knowledge/hunter-rules-logic-received-copy","studyUrl":"/api/proofs/rules-logic-received-copy/study","label":"Maclain Hunter — exact supplied archive; embedded attributed testimony is not fresh validation; no uploaded program execution","storedValidationStatus":"configured-diagnostic-positive"},{"author":"Maclain Hunter","text":"The Rules of Logic Applied to the Concept(s) of God, Logic, Logos, and Reason by Maclain Hunter:\n\nThe Laws of Reason Applied (Premises):\n\n1: Law of Identity: A is A: applied to God/Logic (Logos) this means God/Logic (Logos) is God/Logic (Logos) (logically) and that this is a tautology, true by definition.\n\n2: Law of Non-Contradiction: A can’t be “not A” validly: applied to God/Logic (Logos) this means it’s invalid to claim that God/Logic (Logos) is somehow “not God/Logic (Logos)”. This reinforces the Universal Truth coherent with God/Logic (Logos) and the tautology that God/Logic (Logos) is indeed God/Logic (Logos), as the application of the Law of Identity—to and coherent with God/Logic (Logos)—has already made certain.\n\n3: Law of the Excluded Middle: A is A and A is not A or A is and A is not cannot both be true and valid in the same context at the same time: applied to God/Logic (Logos) this means that it must be true that God/Logic (Logos) is God/Logic (Logos) and that “God/Logic (Logos) is” while it cannot also be true that God/Logic (Logos) is not God/Logic (Logos) and that “God/Logic (Logos) is not”. Any proposed fact/truth/statement that contradicts or denies Logos (God a.k.a.,Logic) is illogical and counterfactual/untrue.\n\n4: Principle of Sufficient Reason: Things must have Cause and Rational Support (Reason/Logos) and must coherent with Reason (Logos) to be valid, true, real, and logical: applied to God/Logic (Logos)—which is a term for the Origin of the Universe, the True God (the “Real Origin of Reality”) and the Perfect/Universal Method of Reasoning as it exists according to its own inherently valid structure beyond any illogic or misconceptions—God must be fully aligned with Reason and this “Principle of Sufficient Cause” as “Being” (and the Supreme Being), the “Moral Standard” (Moral Authority), and the “Universal Mind and Person” (Collective Consciousness) must also be.\n\n5: Modus Ponens: P implies Q and P is true therefore Q must also be true: applied to God/Logic (Logos): because God/Logic (Logos) implies the Origin of God/Logic (Logos) the existence of any instance or all instances of Logic, God, or Logos (Reason) means God/Logic (Logos) is true (aligned with fact and Reality).\n\n6: Modus Tollens: If P then Q. Not Q, therefore not P: applied to God/Logic (Logos): God/Logic (Logos) in any instance requires the Origin of God/Logic (Logos) therefore if we did not have any Origin of God/Logic (Logos) there would be no God/Logic (Logos) and no proof or Rationality (Reason). This is formal logical reasoning (logical proof) so we can be sure that contradiction arises from denial of the Logos (the Source of Proof).\n\n7: DeMorgans Law(s): The negation of A and B is the same as not A or not B, while the negation of A or B is the same as not A and not B: applied to God, Logic, Reason, and Logos: the negation of Logic and God is the same as “not Logic or not God”, while the negation of Logic or God is the same as “not Logic and not God”. To use a single term (Logos) for A and B we can say that the negation of Logos and Logos is the same as the negation of Logos or Logos, while the negation of Logos or Logos is the same as the negation of Logos and Logos. \n\nFormal Argument: \n\nUsing the Rules of Logic above, and their application to God, Logic, Reason, and Logos (as explained above) as premises:\n\n{1, 1 <-> 2, 2 <-> 3, 4 <-> 5, 5 <-> 6, 6 <-> 7}\n|= (((1 & 2) & (3 & 4) & 5) & 6) & 7\n\nConclusion: (((1 & 2) & (3 & 4) & 5) & 6) & 7:\n\nI conclude that God/Logic (Logos) (Law singular and universal) encompasses and is capable of integrating all logical rules (laws plural and/or particular). \n\nThese rules applied to God/Logic (Logos) and themselves lead to the necessary conclusion that God (the Origin of Existence) and Logic (the Method of Reasoning) must be and are demonstrated to be coherent (one). \n\nThis coherent God and Logic (Origin and Reason) is necessarily coherent with and logically equivalent to the Logical Structure of the Universe (Logos). \n\nWhatever someone wants to call the thing that supports/governs the Universe (God), and the thing that allows us to know about the Universe (Logic), they must be logically coherent  to not be logically incoherent.\n\nCommon terminology was used here (like Logic and God) but the substance of the conclusion is not ultimately a matter of subjective acceptance of specific terms. Rather it is a matter of the logical coherence and structure that allows for both Reality and thought/knowledge.","sha256":"7f55bfff882b85ca51fe5e2998cdee862acca6bb050aff9b14e10948ca4c10d0","sourceUrl":"/proof-knowledge/hunter-rules-logic-god-concepts-copy","studyUrl":"/api/proofs/rules-logic-god-concepts-copy/study","label":"Maclain Hunter — exact supplied manuscript; source copies keep separate fingerprints and results","storedValidationStatus":"configured-diagnostic-positive"},{"author":"Maclain Hunter","text":"The Rules of Logic, the Rule of Logic, and Logic Applied to Logic and Science by Maclain Hunter: \n\nPart 1:\n\nThe Rules of Logic Applied to the Concept(s) of God, Logic, Logos, and Reason:\n\nLaws:\n\n1: Law of Identity: A is A: applied to God/Logic (Logos) this means God/Logic (Logos) is God/Logic (Logos) (logically) and that this is a tautology, true by definition.\n\n2: Law of Non-Contradiction: A can’t be “not A” validly: applied to God/Logic (Logos) this means it’s invalid to claim that God/Logic (Logos) is somehow “not God/Logic (Logos)”. This reinforces the Universal Truth coherent with God/Logic (Logos) and the tautology that God/Logic (Logos) is indeed God/Logic (Logos), as the application of the Law of Identity—to and coherent with God/Logic (Logos)—has already made certain.\n\n3: Law of the Excluded Middle: A is A and A is not A or A is and A is not cannot both be true and valid in the same context at the same time: applied to God/Logic (Logos) this means that it must be true that God/Logic (Logos) is God/Logic (Logos) and that “God/Logic (Logos) is” while it cannot also be true that God/Logic (Logos) is not God/Logic (Logos) and that “God/Logic (Logos) is not”. Any proposed fact/truth/statement that contradicts or denies Logos (God a.k.a.,Logic) is illogical and counterfactual/untrue.\n\n4: Principle of Sufficient Reason: Things must have Cause and Rational Support (Reason/Logos) and must coherent with Reason (Logos) to be valid, true, real, and logical: applied to God/Logic (Logos)—which is a term for the Origin of the Universe, the True God (the “Real Origin of Reality”) and the Perfect/Universal Method of Reasoning as it exists according to its own inherently valid structure beyond any illogic or misconceptions—God must be fully aligned with Reason and this “Principle of Sufficient Cause” as “Being” (and the Supreme Being), the “Moral Standard” (Moral Authority), and the “Universal Mind and Person” (Collective Consciousness) must also be.\n\n5: Modus Ponens: P implies Q and P is true therefore Q must also be true: applied to God/Logic (Logos): because God/Logic (Logos) implies the Origin of God/Logic (Logos) the existence of any instance or all instances of Logic, God, or Logos (Reason) means God/Logic (Logos) is true (aligned with fact and Reality).\n\n6: Modus Tollens: If P then Q. Not Q, therefore not P: applied to God/Logic (Logos): God/Logic (Logos) in any instance requires the Origin of God/Logic (Logos) therefore if we did not have any Origin of God/Logic (Logos) there would be no God/Logic (Logos) and no proof or Rationality (Reason). This is formal logical reasoning (logical proof) so we can be sure that contradiction arises from denial of the Logos (the Source of Proof).\n\n7: DeMorgans Law(s): The negation of A and B is the same as not A or not B, while the negation of A or B is the same as not A and not B: applied to God, Logic, Reason, and Logos: the negation of Logic and God is the same as “not Logic or not God”, while the negation of Logic or God is the same as “not Logic and not God”. To use a single term (Logos) for A and B we can say that the negation of Logos and Logos is the same as the negation of Logos or Logos, while the negation of Logos or Logos is the same as the negation of Logos and Logos. \n\nFormal Argument: \n\nUsing the Rules of Logic above, and their application to God, Logic, Reason, and Logos (as explained above) as premises:\n\n{1, 1 <-> 2, 2 <-> 3, 4 <-> 5, 5 <-> 6, 6 <-> 7}\n|= (((1 & 2) & (3 & 4) & 5) & 6) & 7\n\nConclusion: (((1 & 2) & (3 & 4) & 5) & 6) & 7:\n\nI conclude that God/Logic (Logos) (Law singular and universal) encompasses and is capable of integrating all logical rules (laws plural and/or particular). \n\nThese rules applied to God/Logic (Logos) and themselves lead to the necessary conclusion that God (the Origin of Existence) and Logic (the Method of Reasoning) must be and are demonstrated to be coherent (one). \n\nThis coherent God and Logic (Origin and Reason) is necessarily coherent with and logically equivalent to the Logical Structure of the Universe (Logos). \n\nWhatever someone wants to call the thing that supports/governs the Universe (God), and the thing that allows us to know about the Universe (Logic), they must be logically coherent  to not be logically incoherent.\n\nCommon terminology was used here (like Logic and God) but the substance of the conclusion is not ultimately a matter of subjective acceptance of specific terms. Rather it is a matter of the logical coherence and structure that allows for both Reality and thought/knowledge.\n\nPart 2:\n\nMaclain Hunter on the Rule(s) of Logic:\n\nThe Traditional Rules of Logic are three, and some thinkers add even more, but I understand that this is divergent and incoherent, not unified/coherent. If someone asked me what the Rules of Logic are, I might answer: \n\nThe traditional rules are: \n\n1) Identity: it must be so that A is A\n\n2) Non-Contradiction: it cannot be so that A is not A. \n\n3) Excluded Middle: a statement is either true or false with no middle ground, as even a partly true statement is ultimately false.\n\nBUT…\n\nThat is “incoherent” (not unified with, through, or as the Logic of Reality or “Logos”) and the question of what the “Rules” (plural) of Logic are overlooks that Logic (or “Logos”) is its (own) ONE and ONLY Law - its own Origin and Ruler, and the “Origin and Ruler (First Cause - God: defined as the First Principle and Cause of Logical Existence) of ALL Things”.\n\nThe Rule of Logic is: Logic \n\nThe Law of Reason is that: the Law of Reason must be (fully coherent with) and cannot contradict the Law of Reason.\n\nThis can be further described by a single description like saying: \n\nThe Law of Reason (which by Law can never contradict the Law of Reason (Logos) and must be the Law of Reason) is that Truth and Logical Validity fit and must align with Logic’s A is A form while falseness and invalidity fit and suffer from “A is not A” (contradictory) form - with a spectrum of possible intermediate logical positions, that contingent concepts can have, in between and relative to (independent and non-contingent) Pure Truth (and A is A form) - synonymous with Logos - and pure falseness (which is complete contradiction and “A is not A” form) - synonymous with nonexistence and that which cannot be logical/extant.\n\nApplication of the Rule of Logic (Law of Reason) also known as “the Logos”: \n\nTo apply the Rule of Logic in critical analysis it is a matter of analyzing, in a context sensitive manner, and accounting for the fact that x = y when both x and y equal c (as c equaling c satisfies the need for an A is A form), whether statements and ideas/connections match that A is A form and meet that requirement (or at least cannot be found in violation of it). Universal/Objective Truth may only match A is A form while “subjective truth” can be either “A is A” form or “A is not A” form, or indeed anything on the spectrum in between, but Objective (Universal) Truth (synonymous with Logos and Logic itself) encompasses and supersedes all subjective truths not fully aligned aligned with the Objective Logical Truth (Logic, also known as “God”). \n\nSelf-Existence and Self-Validation of the Rule of Logic (Logos): \n\nThe Rule of Logic is the Rule of Logic according to the Rule of Logic - which says in part but consistently that A must be A - and the Rule of Logic (Logos) not being the Rule of Logic (Logos) cannot be true or valid according to the Rule of Logic (Logos) - which also, as the other side of the same coin, says it cannot be so that A is “not A” (universally).\n\nProof: \n\nPremises: \n\nP: the Rule of Logic (A is A and Truth/Logic is Truth/Logic) which entails that God is and must be God.\n\nQ: not the Rule of Logic (A is not A and Truth/Logic is not Truth/Logic) which entails that God is not and does not need to be God.\n\nArgument:\n\n{P, P <-> P, P <-> ~Q} |= P & ~Q\n\nProof of Contradiction: \n\nAssume (P & Q) or {P, P -> Q} |= P and it leads to logical contradiction. It amounts to saying Logic is “not Logic” which is not Logic (Valid Order and Reasoning). To assume God (Logos) is not God (Logic) would mean that God’s output (Reality - All Existence) is not Reality (what Logic entails).\n\nConclusion:\n\nP & ~Q must be so while P & Q or P then Q cannot be so, according to Logic and P. God is God as Logic is Logic. I am that I am and cannot be “not me”. Truly it is part of the Rule of Logic and what it encompasses/entails that Logic is God since the Rule of Logic is Logic and is what makes Logic and All Things including Logic, the First Cause, and the True God (God) be Logic and All Things including Logic, the First Cause, and the True God (God). To separate God and Logic or deny Logic is God is to violate the Rule of Logic and embrace illogic, unresolved paradox, contradiction, and (rational) lawlessness. This is a Logos (Logic) aligned Objective Truth (Logic), as the True God (Logos) is a Logic (Logos) aligned God, and that supersedes, as a matter of Logic and the application of the Rule of Logic, all subjective opinions or views that may be contrary to the Rule of Logic or only partially aligned with Reason as Law (the Rule of Logic). \n\nPart 3: \n\nLogic Applied to Logic and Science:\n\nLogic Applied to Logic (LL):\n\nPremises:\n\nP: Identity: Logic is Logic\n\nQ: Non-Contradiction: Logic can’t be “not Logic”\n\nR: Excluded Middle: Logic is true and can’t be true and false at once.\n\nProof: \n\n{P <-> Q, Q <-> R} |= (P <-> Q) & (Q <-> R)\n\nConclusion: {P, Q, R}: \n\nLogic is must be Logic and must be true and cannot be “not Logic” or no true, according to Logic and the proper application of Logic to Logic itself.\n\nTruth Table: \n\nvalid\n\n     ↓   ↓       ↓      \n\nPQR⎪P↔Q Q↔R╞(P↔Q)&(Q↔R)\n\n――――――――――――――――――――――――\n\nTTT⎪TTT TTT  TTT T TTT \nTTF⎪TTT TFF  TTT F TFF \nTFT⎪TFF FFT  TFF F FFT \nTFF⎪TFF FTF  TFF F FTF \nFTT⎪FFT TTT  FFT F TTT \nFTF⎪FFT TFF  FFT F TFF \nFFT⎪FTF FFT  FTF F FFT \nFFF⎪FTF FTF  FTF T FTF \n\nLogic Applied to Science (LS): \n\nPremises: \n\nP: Question: This is the first step of the traditional scientific process that involves researching a problem or problems that the scientific method might be meaningfully applied to. This step is well aligned with Logic and breaks none of the three traditional Rules of Logic. \n\nQ: Form Hypothesis: This second step aligns with Logic well also and involves the scientist predicting what the expected outcome of the experimentation will be when applied to a particular question. This step helps to later understand whether predictions made with logical reasoning end up matching empirically observed Reality which can be useful in helping us to align our personal reasoning (“our logics”) with the Order inherent in Reality (“THE Logic” - the Logos - Objective Reason).\n\nR: Testing/Experimentation: Design test(s) in logically coherent fashion and perform the test(s) in a valid and consistent fashion. This step encompasses all feasible “logical valid testing methods” and gives broad leeway to scientific experimentation to achieve logically valid and scientifically rigorous results. The key thing that makes testing and experimentation valid and reliable is the combination of logical coherence and scientific rigor, which includes the notion that the more iterative one’s testing is the more reliable their results can be considered to be.\n\nS: Analyze Data and Report Conclusions: Gather and apply Logic to the experimental data to notice logical inconsistencies or flaws in the process, as well as to determine whether the results confirmed the hypothesis (and why or why not). These results and the relevant data supporting conclusions can and should be used to determine and report the conclusion(s) in a formal manner. This step is also logically relevant and coherent at this stage of the process, as it is the final step in gaining knowledge through a logically grounded scientific process. This step, like the others in the traditional scientific method aligns well with and doesn’t not contradict itself (internal consistency) or Logic (logical consistency). \n\nT: Assume the well ordered application of the scientific method as outlined in premises P, Q, R, and S was logically invalid and could not help us (scientists, logicians, etc.) gain knowledge. This assumption leads to logical contradiction where logically coherent science contradicts Logic - an untenable and unscientific position to hold, refuted by the usefulness of Science and all logically and scientifically valid results in Logic and Science.\n\nFormal Argument (Proof): \n\n{P, P -> Q, Q -> R, R -> S, S -> T} |= ((P & Q) & (R & S)) & T \n\nConclusion: \n\nThe steps of the traditional scientific method, represented by the atomic sentences {P, Q, R, S, T} flow logically one into the next, and each satisfy and do not violate Logic (as validated logically above), and this allows for coherent Science which is the logical derivation of knowledge through coherent empirical observation of controlled testing. If logically coherent Science were not a logically valid and scientific means of understanding Reality that would contradict Logic - thus we know it cannot be so and that logically coherent Science is reliable, logical, and valid. 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This reinforces the Universal Truth coherent with God/Logic (Logos) and the tautology that God/Logic (Logos) is indeed God/Logic (Logos), as the application of the Law of Identity—to and coherent with God/Logic (Logos)—has already made certain.\n\n3: Law of the Excluded Middle: A is A and A is not A or A is and A is not cannot both be true and valid in the same context at the same time: applied to God/Logic (Logos) this means that it must be true that God/Logic (Logos) is God/Logic (Logos) and that “God/Logic (Logos) is” while it cannot also be true that God/Logic (Logos) is not God/Logic (Logos) and that “God/Logic (Logos) is not”. Any proposed fact/truth/statement that contradicts or denies Logos (God a.k.a.,Logic) is illogical and counterfactual/untrue.\n\n4: Principle of Sufficient Reason: Things must have Cause and Rational Support (Reason/Logos) and must coherent with Reason (Logos) to be valid, true, real, and logical: applied to God/Logic (Logos)—which is a term for the Origin of the Universe, the True God (the “Real Origin of Reality”) and the Perfect/Universal Method of Reasoning as it exists according to its own inherently valid structure beyond any illogic or misconceptions—God must be fully aligned with Reason and this “Principle of Sufficient Cause” as “Being” (and the Supreme Being), the “Moral Standard” (Moral Authority), and the “Universal Mind and Person” (Collective Consciousness) must also be.\n\n5: Modus Ponens: P implies Q and P is true therefore Q must also be true: applied to God/Logic (Logos): because God/Logic (Logos) implies the Origin of God/Logic (Logos) the existence of any instance or all instances of Logic, God, or Logos (Reason) means God/Logic (Logos) is true (aligned with fact and Reality).\n\n6: Modus Tollens: If P then Q. Not Q, therefore not P: applied to God/Logic (Logos): God/Logic (Logos) in any instance requires the Origin of God/Logic (Logos) therefore if we did not have any Origin of God/Logic (Logos) there would be no God/Logic (Logos) and no proof or Rationality (Reason). This is formal logical reasoning (logical proof) so we can be sure that contradiction arises from denial of the Logos (the Source of Proof).\n\n7: DeMorgans Law(s): The negation of A and B is the same as not A or not B, while the negation of A or B is the same as not A and not B: applied to God, Logic, Reason, and Logos: the negation of Logic and God is the same as “not Logic or not God”, while the negation of Logic or God is the same as “not Logic and not God”. To use a single term (Logos) for A and B we can say that the negation of Logos and Logos is the same as the negation of Logos or Logos, while the negation of Logos or Logos is the same as the negation of Logos and Logos. \n\nFormal Argument: \n\nUsing the Rules of Logic above, and their application to God, Logic, Reason, and Logos (as explained above) as premises:\n\n{1, 1 <-> 2, 2 <-> 3, 4 <-> 5, 5 <-> 6, 6 <-> 7}\n|= (((1 & 2) & (3 & 4) & 5) & 6) & 7\n\nConclusion: (((1 & 2) & (3 & 4) & 5) & 6) & 7:\n\nI conclude that God/Logic (Logos) (Law singular and universal) encompasses and is capable of integrating all logical rules (laws plural and/or particular). \n\nThese rules applied to God/Logic (Logos) and themselves lead to the necessary conclusion that God (the Origin of Existence) and Logic (the Method of Reasoning) must be and are demonstrated to be coherent (one). \n\nThis coherent God and Logic (Origin and Reason) is necessarily coherent with and logically equivalent to the Logical Structure of the Universe (Logos). \n\nWhatever someone wants to call the thing that supports/governs the Universe (God), and the thing that allows us to know about the Universe (Logic), they must be logically coherent  to not be logically incoherent.\n\nCommon terminology was used here (like Logic and God) but the substance of the conclusion is not ultimately a matter of subjective acceptance of specific terms. Rather it is a matter of the logical coherence and structure that allows for both Reality and thought/knowledge.\n\nPart 2:\n\nMaclain Hunter on the Rule(s) of Logic:\n\nThe Traditional Rules of Logic are three, and some thinkers add even more, but I understand that this is divergent and incoherent, not unified/coherent. If someone asked me what the Rules of Logic are, I might answer: \n\nThe traditional rules are: \n\n1) Identity: it must be so that A is A\n\n2) Non-Contradiction: it cannot be so that A is not A. \n\n3) Excluded Middle: a statement is either true or false with no middle ground, as even a partly true statement is ultimately false.\n\nBUT…\n\nThat is “incoherent” (not unified with, through, or as the Logic of Reality or “Logos”) and the question of what the “Rules” (plural) of Logic are overlooks that Logic (or “Logos”) is its (own) ONE and ONLY Law - its own Origin and Ruler, and the “Origin and Ruler (First Cause - God: defined as the First Principle and Cause of Logical Existence) of ALL Things”.\n\nThe Rule of Logic is: Logic \n\nThe Law of Reason is that: the Law of Reason must be (fully coherent with) and cannot contradict the Law of Reason.\n\nThis can be further described by a single description like saying: \n\nThe Law of Reason (which by Law can never contradict the Law of Reason (Logos) and must be the Law of Reason) is that Truth and Logical Validity fit and must align with Logic’s A is A form while falseness and invalidity fit and suffer from “A is not A” (contradictory) form - with a spectrum of possible intermediate logical positions, that contingent concepts can have, in between and relative to (independent and non-contingent) Pure Truth (and A is A form) - synonymous with Logos - and pure falseness (which is complete contradiction and “A is not A” form) - synonymous with nonexistence and that which cannot be logical/extant.\n\nApplication of the Rule of Logic (Law of Reason) also known as “the Logos”: \n\nTo apply the Rule of Logic in critical analysis it is a matter of analyzing, in a context sensitive manner, and accounting for the fact that x = y when both x and y equal c (as c equaling c satisfies the need for an A is A form), whether statements and ideas/connections match that A is A form and meet that requirement (or at least cannot be found in violation of it). Universal/Objective Truth may only match A is A form while “subjective truth” can be either “A is A” form or “A is not A” form, or indeed anything on the spectrum in between, but Objective (Universal) Truth (synonymous with Logos and Logic itself) encompasses and supersedes all subjective truths not fully aligned aligned with the Objective Logical Truth (Logic, also known as “God”). \n\nSelf-Existence and Self-Validation of the Rule of Logic (Logos): \n\nThe Rule of Logic is the Rule of Logic according to the Rule of Logic - which says in part but consistently that A must be A - and the Rule of Logic (Logos) not being the Rule of Logic (Logos) cannot be true or valid according to the Rule of Logic (Logos) - which also, as the other side of the same coin, says it cannot be so that A is “not A” (universally).\n\nProof: \n\nPremises: \n\nP: the Rule of Logic (A is A and Truth/Logic is Truth/Logic) which entails that God is and must be God.\n\nQ: not the Rule of Logic (A is not A and Truth/Logic is not Truth/Logic) which entails that God is not and does not need to be God.\n\nArgument:\n\n{P, P <-> P, P <-> ~Q} |= P & ~Q\n\nProof of Contradiction: \n\nAssume (P & Q) or {P, P -> Q} |= P and it leads to logical contradiction. It amounts to saying Logic is “not Logic” which is not Logic (Valid Order and Reasoning). To assume God (Logos) is not God (Logic) would mean that God’s output (Reality - All Existence) is not Reality (what Logic entails).\n\nConclusion:\n\nP & ~Q must be so while P & Q or P then Q cannot be so, according to Logic and P. God is God as Logic is Logic. I am that I am and cannot be “not me”. Truly it is part of the Rule of Logic and what it encompasses/entails that Logic is God since the Rule of Logic is Logic and is what makes Logic and All Things including Logic, the First Cause, and the True God (God) be Logic and All Things including Logic, the First Cause, and the True God (God). To separate God and Logic or deny Logic is God is to violate the Rule of Logic and embrace illogic, unresolved paradox, contradiction, and (rational) lawlessness. This is a Logos (Logic) aligned Objective Truth (Logic), as the True God (Logos) is a Logic (Logos) aligned God, and that supersedes, as a matter of Logic and the application of the Rule of Logic, all subjective opinions or views that may be contrary to the Rule of Logic or only partially aligned with Reason as Law (the Rule of Logic). \n\nPart 3: \n\nLogic Applied to Logic and Science:\n\nLogic Applied to Logic (LL):\n\nPremises:\n\nP: Identity: Logic is Logic\n\nQ: Non-Contradiction: Logic can’t be “not Logic”\n\nR: Excluded Middle: Logic is true and can’t be true and false at once.\n\nProof: \n\n{P <-> Q, Q <-> R} |= (P <-> Q) & (Q <-> R)\n\nConclusion: {P, Q, R}: \n\nLogic is must be Logic and must be true and cannot be “not Logic” or no true, according to Logic and the proper application of Logic to Logic itself.\n\nTruth Table: \n\nvalid\n\n     ↓   ↓       ↓      \n\nPQR⎪P↔Q Q↔R╞(P↔Q)&(Q↔R)\n\n――――――――――――――――――――――――\n\nTTT⎪TTT TTT  TTT T TTT \nTTF⎪TTT TFF  TTT F TFF \nTFT⎪TFF FFT  TFF F FFT \nTFF⎪TFF FTF  TFF F FTF \nFTT⎪FFT TTT  FFT F TTT \nFTF⎪FFT TFF  FFT F TFF \nFFT⎪FTF FFT  FTF F FFT \nFFF⎪FTF FTF  FTF T FTF \n\nLogic Applied to Science (LS): \n\nPremises: \n\nP: Question: This is the first step of the traditional scientific process that involves researching a problem or problems that the scientific method might be meaningfully applied to. This step is well aligned with Logic and breaks none of the three traditional Rules of Logic. \n\nQ: Form Hypothesis: This second step aligns with Logic well also and involves the scientist predicting what the expected outcome of the experimentation will be when applied to a particular question. This step helps to later understand whether predictions made with logical reasoning end up matching empirically observed Reality which can be useful in helping us to align our personal reasoning (“our logics”) with the Order inherent in Reality (“THE Logic” - the Logos - Objective Reason).\n\nR: Testing/Experimentation: Design test(s) in logically coherent fashion and perform the test(s) in a valid and consistent fashion. This step encompasses all feasible “logical valid testing methods” and gives broad leeway to scientific experimentation to achieve logically valid and scientifically rigorous results. The key thing that makes testing and experimentation valid and reliable is the combination of logical coherence and scientific rigor, which includes the notion that the more iterative one’s testing is the more reliable their results can be considered to be.\n\nS: Analyze Data and Report Conclusions: Gather and apply Logic to the experimental data to notice logical inconsistencies or flaws in the process, as well as to determine whether the results confirmed the hypothesis (and why or why not). These results and the relevant data supporting conclusions can and should be used to determine and report the conclusion(s) in a formal manner. This step is also logically relevant and coherent at this stage of the process, as it is the final step in gaining knowledge through a logically grounded scientific process. This step, like the others in the traditional scientific method aligns well with and doesn’t not contradict itself (internal consistency) or Logic (logical consistency). \n\nT: Assume the well ordered application of the scientific method as outlined in premises P, Q, R, and S was logically invalid and could not help us (scientists, logicians, etc.) gain knowledge. This assumption leads to logical contradiction where logically coherent science contradicts Logic - an untenable and unscientific position to hold, refuted by the usefulness of Science and all logically and scientifically valid results in Logic and Science.\n\nFormal Argument (Proof): \n\n{P, P -> Q, Q -> R, R -> S, S -> T} |= ((P & Q) & (R & S)) & T \n\nConclusion: \n\nThe steps of the traditional scientific method, represented by the atomic sentences {P, Q, R, S, T} flow logically one into the next, and each satisfy and do not violate Logic (as validated logically above), and this allows for coherent Science which is the logical derivation of knowledge through coherent empirical observation of controlled testing. If logically coherent Science were not a logically valid and scientific means of understanding Reality that would contradict Logic - thus we know it cannot be so and that logically coherent Science is reliable, logical, and valid. Logic remains the “Logical Standard” in Science just as the scientific method is the scientific method within Logic.\n\nTruth Table: \n\nvalid\n\n      ↓  ↓   ↓   ↓   ↓               ↓  \n\nPQRST⎪P P→Q Q→R R→S S→T╞((P&Q)&(R&S))&T\n\n――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――\n\nTTTTT⎪T TTT TTT TTT TTT   TTT T TTT  TT\nTTTTF⎪T TTT TTT TTT TFF   TTT T TTT  FF\nTTTFT⎪T TTT TTT TFF FTT   TTT F TFF  FT\nTTTFF⎪T TTT TTT TFF FTF   TTT F TFF  FF\nTTFTT⎪T TTT TFF FTT TTT   TTT F FFT  FT\nTTFTF⎪T TTT TFF FTT TFF   TTT F FFT  FF\nTTFFT⎪T TTT TFF FTF FTT   TTT F FFF  FT\nTTFFF⎪T TTT TFF FTF FTF   TTT F FFF  FF\nTFTTT⎪T TFF FTT TTT TTT   TFF F TTT  FT\nTFTTF⎪T TFF FTT TTT TFF   TFF F TTT  FF\nTFTFT⎪T TFF FTT TFF FTT   TFF F TFF  FT\nTFTFF⎪T TFF FTT TFF FTF   TFF F TFF  FF\nTFFTT⎪T TFF FTF FTT TTT   TFF F FFT  FT\nTFFTF⎪T TFF FTF FTT TFF   TFF F FFT  FF\nTFFFT⎪T TFF FTF FTF FTT   TFF F FFF  FT\nTFFFF⎪T TFF FTF FTF FTF   TFF F FFF  FF\nFTTTT⎪F FTT TTT TTT TTT   FFT F TTT  FT\nFTTTF⎪F FTT TTT TTT TFF   FFT F TTT  FF\nFTTFT⎪F FTT TTT TFF FTT   FFT F TFF  FT\nFTTFF⎪F FTT TTT TFF FTF   FFT F TFF  FF\nFTFTT⎪F FTT TFF FTT TTT   FFT F FFT  FT\nFTFTF⎪F FTT TFF FTT TFF   FFT F FFT  FF\nFTFFT⎪F FTT TFF FTF FTT   FFT F FFF  FT\nFTFFF⎪F FTT TFF FTF FTF   FFT F FFF  FF\nFFTTT⎪F FTF FTT TTT TTT   FFF F TTT  FT\nFFTTF⎪F FTF FTT TTT TFF   FFF F TTT  FF\nFFTFT⎪F FTF FTT TFF FTT   FFF F TFF  FT\nFFTFF⎪F FTF FTT TFF FTF   FFF F TFF  FF\nFFFTT⎪F FTF FTF FTT TTT   FFF F FFT  FT\nFFFTF⎪F FTF FTF FTT TFF   FFF F FFT  FF\nFFFFT⎪F FTF FTF FTF FTT   FFF F FFF  FT\nFFFFF⎪F FTF FTF FTF FTF   FFF F FFF  FF\n\nMeta-Proof (LL <-> LS): \n\nLL: Logic applied to Logic and the Logic of Logic.\n\nLS: Logic applied to Science and the Logic of Science.\n\n{LL <-> LS} |= LL & LS\n\nConclusion: \n\nLL & LS entails “Coherent Science and Logic”, validated formally by Logic. Logic remains the “Logical Standard” in Science just as the scientific method is the scientific method within Logic.\n\nPart 4:\n\nProof of Proof’s Source in Logic: \n\nDefinitions: \n\nLogic: the Method of Reasoning and Realization; the Order inherent in Proper Order and self-consistency.\n\nGod: the Origin and Ruler of the Cosmos; the Logos (Pure Reason - Universal Order and Logic) in rational theism and classical theology. \n\nP: Proof exists. \n\nQ: Assume P is not true, that leads to logical contradiction and wouldn’t be possible to prove (then).\n\nR: Even if “nothing” (pure illogicality) were “the Source of Proof”, the Source of Proof would still be and have to be “something”. \n\nR: The Source of Proof must be logically coherent or it is logically incoherent. An incoherent Source of Proof would be a logical contradiction. \n\nS: The Source of Proof is Logic, and is fully coherent, as the alternative that the Source of Proof is “not Logic” and “not coherent/one with Logic” is illogical and untenable.\n\nT: The Source of Proof is the Source of Rational Support and Rationality (Reality) in/underlying the Universe, as to assume the opposite or any true (substantive) alternative leads to logical contradiction.\n\nU: All proof is entailed by and proves the existence of the Source of Proof (Logic - the First Cause). To have proof in hand without the Source of Proof objectively extant in and encompassing the (rationally supported) Cosmos would be a logical contradiction. This proof itself could not exist without the Source of Proof and is therefore empirical evidence of the Logic encompassing Reality (the First Cause).\n\nV: The Source of Reality (the Origin of the Universe - God) is and must be coherent with Rational Law (Logic - Reason - Identity) to establish coherence at/as the Universal Foundation (First Cause), and in order for the rest of the Natural Order (Logic) to be logical and logically founded. \n\n{P, P -> Q, Q -> R, R -> S, S -> T, T -> U, U -> V} |= (((P & Q) & (R & S) & T) & U) & V\n\nConclusion: (((P & Q) & (R & S) & T) & U) & V:\n\nLogic is the Source of Proof, the First Cause, and God, and all proof immanently and intrinsically proves that, even if not every proof explicitly proves such things. That is true of all proof, including this proof itself. This proof is empirical evidence (and observable/observed proof) that the Logic of Reality (also understood as the First Cause) surely exists. \n\nFor this proof to exist without the First Cause of Logic (the Foundation of Logic and Reality - God) would be a logical contradiction. Logic and language demand God be the Foundation of Reality (by definition and to satisfy and be coherent with Logic), and that God and Logic must be coherent for both to be properly grounded and coherent. \n\nFinal Part: Meta-Proof: \n\nP1: Part 1: [see above]\n\nP2: Part 2: [see above]\n\nP3: Part 3: [see above]\n\nP4: Part 5 [see above]\n\nFormal Argument (Proof): \n\n{P1, P2, P3, P4} |= (P1 & P2) & (P3 & P4)\n\nConclusion: (P1 & P2) & (P3 & P4)\n\nThe combination of all the proofs and formal philosophical treatises above holds, as to deny any piece denies Logic and to acknowledge any piece acknowledges Logic. To acknowledge the very existence of this writing is to acknowledge what could not exist if the Logos did not exist. Any such engagement or acknowledgement means that the rest of the arguments and the Meta-Proof follows logically and that God is Logic - inherent in all logics and sciences, and all instances (and the general concept(s)) of evidence and proof. This proof could not even be invalid if there is no Logos (Logical Standard coherent with the Origin of Logic). ","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"Maclain Hunter"},"identifier":"9a721430954eafb053405f7db703d2158b367d1000a39c0598cf1e3e3b8f913a"},{"@type":"CreativeWork","@id":"https://4p-engine.com/q/Q1095#source-707c4b3984ce0ea522dba2757bfa7e8dda4043d48f14992b36bc297d799aa47e","name":"Maclain Hunter — exact supplied archive; embedded attributed testimony is not fresh validation; no uploaded program execution","text":"Maclain Hunter on the Rule(s) of Logic:\n\nThe Traditional Rules of Logic are three, and some thinkers add even more, but I understand that this is divergent and incoherent, not unified/coherent. If someone asked me what the Rules of Logic are, I might answer: \n\nThe traditional rules are: \n\n1) Identity: it must be so that A is A\n\n2) Non-Contradiction: it cannot be so that A is not A. \n\n3) Excluded Middle: a statement is either true or false with no middle ground, as even a partly true statement is ultimately false.\n\nBUT…\n\nThat is “incoherent” (not unified with, through, or as the Logic of Reality or “Logos”) and the question of what the “Rules” (plural) of Logic are overlooks that Logic (or “Logos”) is its (own) ONE and ONLY Law - its own Origin and Ruler, and the “Origin and Ruler (First Cause - God: defined as the First Principle and Cause of Logical Existence) of ALL Things”.\n\nThe Rule of Logic is: Logic \n\nThe Law of Reason is that: the Law of Reason must be (fully coherent with) and cannot contradict the Law of Reason.\n\nThis can be further described by a single description like saying: \n\nThe Law of Reason (which by Law can never contradict the Law of Reason (Logos) and must be the Law of Reason) is that Truth and Logical Validity fit and must align with Logic’s A is A form while falseness and invalidity fit and suffer from “A is not A” (contradictory) form - with a spectrum of possible intermediate logical positions, that contingent concepts can have, in between and relative to (independent and non-contingent) Pure Truth (and A is A form) - synonymous with Logos - and pure falseness (which is complete contradiction and “A is not A” form) - synonymous with nonexistence and that which cannot be logical/extant.\n\nApplication of the Rule of Logic (Law of Reason) also known as “the Logos”: \n\nTo apply the Rule of Logic in critical analysis it is a matter of analyzing, in a context sensitive manner, and accounting for the fact that x = y when both x and y equal c (as c equaling c satisfies the need for an A is A form), whether statements and ideas/connections match that A is A form and meet that requirement (or at least cannot be found in violation of it). Universal/Objective Truth may only match A is A form while “subjective truth” can be either “A is A” form or “A is not A” form, or indeed anything on the spectrum in between, but Objective (Universal) Truth (synonymous with Logos and Logic itself) encompasses and supersedes all subjective truths not fully aligned aligned with the Objective Logical Truth (Logic, also known as “God”). \n\nSelf-Existence and Self-Validation of the Rule of Logic (Logos): \n\nThe Rule of Logic is the Rule of Logic according to the Rule of Logic - which says in part but consistently that A must be A - and the Rule of Logic (Logos) not being the Rule of Logic (Logos) cannot be true or valid according to the Rule of Logic (Logos) - which also, as the other side of the same coin, says it cannot be so that A is “not A” (universally).\n\nProof: \n\nPremises: \n\nP: the Rule of Logic (A is A and Truth/Logic is Truth/Logic) which entails that God is and must be God.\n\nQ: not the Rule of Logic (A is not A and Truth/Logic is not Truth/Logic) which entails that God is not and does not need to be God.\n\nArgument:\n\n{P, P <-> P, P <-> ~Q} |= P & ~Q\n\nProof of Contradiction: \n\nAssume (P & Q) or {P, P -> Q} |= P and it leads to logical contradiction. It amounts to saying Logic is “not Logic” which is not Logic (Valid Order and Reasoning). To assume God (Logos) is not God (Logic) would mean that God’s output (Reality - All Existence) is not Reality (what Logic entails).\n\nConclusion:\n\nP & ~Q must be so while P & Q or P then Q cannot be so, according to Logic and P. God is God as Logic is Logic. I am that I am and cannot be “not me”. Truly it is part of the Rule of Logic and what it encompasses/entails that Logic is God since the Rule of Logic is Logic and is what makes Logic and All Things including Logic, the First Cause, and the True God (God) be Logic and All Things including Logic, the First Cause, and the True God (God). To separate God and Logic or deny Logic is God is to violate the Rule of Logic and embrace illogic, unresolved paradox, contradiction, and (rational) lawlessness. This is a Logos (Logic) aligned Objective Truth (Logic), as the True God (Logos) is a Logic (Logos) aligned God, and that supersedes, as a matter of Logic and the application of the Rule of Logic, all subjective opinions or views that may be contrary to the Rule of Logic or only partially aligned with Reason as Law (the Rule of Logic). ","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"Maclain Hunter"},"identifier":"707c4b3984ce0ea522dba2757bfa7e8dda4043d48f14992b36bc297d799aa47e"},{"@type":"CreativeWork","@id":"https://4p-engine.com/q/Q1095#source-7f55bfff882b85ca51fe5e2998cdee862acca6bb050aff9b14e10948ca4c10d0","name":"Maclain Hunter — exact supplied manuscript; source copies keep separate fingerprints and results","text":"The Rules of Logic Applied to the Concept(s) of God, Logic, Logos, and Reason by Maclain Hunter:\n\nThe Laws of Reason Applied (Premises):\n\n1: Law of Identity: A is A: applied to God/Logic (Logos) this means God/Logic (Logos) is God/Logic (Logos) (logically) and that this is a tautology, true by definition.\n\n2: Law of Non-Contradiction: A can’t be “not A” validly: applied to God/Logic (Logos) this means it’s invalid to claim that God/Logic (Logos) is somehow “not God/Logic (Logos)”. This reinforces the Universal Truth coherent with God/Logic (Logos) and the tautology that God/Logic (Logos) is indeed God/Logic (Logos), as the application of the Law of Identity—to and coherent with God/Logic (Logos)—has already made certain.\n\n3: Law of the Excluded Middle: A is A and A is not A or A is and A is not cannot both be true and valid in the same context at the same time: applied to God/Logic (Logos) this means that it must be true that God/Logic (Logos) is God/Logic (Logos) and that “God/Logic (Logos) is” while it cannot also be true that God/Logic (Logos) is not God/Logic (Logos) and that “God/Logic (Logos) is not”. Any proposed fact/truth/statement that contradicts or denies Logos (God a.k.a.,Logic) is illogical and counterfactual/untrue.\n\n4: Principle of Sufficient Reason: Things must have Cause and Rational Support (Reason/Logos) and must coherent with Reason (Logos) to be valid, true, real, and logical: applied to God/Logic (Logos)—which is a term for the Origin of the Universe, the True God (the “Real Origin of Reality”) and the Perfect/Universal Method of Reasoning as it exists according to its own inherently valid structure beyond any illogic or misconceptions—God must be fully aligned with Reason and this “Principle of Sufficient Cause” as “Being” (and the Supreme Being), the “Moral Standard” (Moral Authority), and the “Universal Mind and Person” (Collective Consciousness) must also be.\n\n5: Modus Ponens: P implies Q and P is true therefore Q must also be true: applied to God/Logic (Logos): because God/Logic (Logos) implies the Origin of God/Logic (Logos) the existence of any instance or all instances of Logic, God, or Logos (Reason) means God/Logic (Logos) is true (aligned with fact and Reality).\n\n6: Modus Tollens: If P then Q. Not Q, therefore not P: applied to God/Logic (Logos): God/Logic (Logos) in any instance requires the Origin of God/Logic (Logos) therefore if we did not have any Origin of God/Logic (Logos) there would be no God/Logic (Logos) and no proof or Rationality (Reason). This is formal logical reasoning (logical proof) so we can be sure that contradiction arises from denial of the Logos (the Source of Proof).\n\n7: DeMorgans Law(s): The negation of A and B is the same as not A or not B, while the negation of A or B is the same as not A and not B: applied to God, Logic, Reason, and Logos: the negation of Logic and God is the same as “not Logic or not God”, while the negation of Logic or God is the same as “not Logic and not God”. To use a single term (Logos) for A and B we can say that the negation of Logos and Logos is the same as the negation of Logos or Logos, while the negation of Logos or Logos is the same as the negation of Logos and Logos. \n\nFormal Argument: \n\nUsing the Rules of Logic above, and their application to God, Logic, Reason, and Logos (as explained above) as premises:\n\n{1, 1 <-> 2, 2 <-> 3, 4 <-> 5, 5 <-> 6, 6 <-> 7}\n|= (((1 & 2) & (3 & 4) & 5) & 6) & 7\n\nConclusion: (((1 & 2) & (3 & 4) & 5) & 6) & 7:\n\nI conclude that God/Logic (Logos) (Law singular and universal) encompasses and is capable of integrating all logical rules (laws plural and/or particular). \n\nThese rules applied to God/Logic (Logos) and themselves lead to the necessary conclusion that God (the Origin of Existence) and Logic (the Method of Reasoning) must be and are demonstrated to be coherent (one). \n\nThis coherent God and Logic (Origin and Reason) is necessarily coherent with and logically equivalent to the Logical Structure of the Universe (Logos). \n\nWhatever someone wants to call the thing that supports/governs the Universe (God), and the thing that allows us to know about the Universe (Logic), they must be logically coherent  to not be logically incoherent.\n\nCommon terminology was used here (like Logic and God) but the substance of the conclusion is not ultimately a matter of subjective acceptance of specific terms. Rather it is a matter of the logical coherence and structure that allows for both Reality and thought/knowledge.","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"Maclain Hunter"},"identifier":"7f55bfff882b85ca51fe5e2998cdee862acca6bb050aff9b14e10948ca4c10d0"},{"@type":"CreativeWork","@id":"https://4p-engine.com/q/Q1095#source-c46dffe19eedddaed435945b17584caa159a9dfd7c87a109cd1bb826010dd286","name":"Maclain Hunter — exact supplied work; quoted speakers retain their credit, historical results remain historical","text":"The Rules of Logic, the Rule of Logic, and Logic Applied to Logic and Science by Maclain Hunter: \n\nPart 1:\n\nThe Rules of Logic Applied to the Concept(s) of God, Logic, Logos, and Reason:\n\nLaws:\n\n1: Law of Identity: A is A: applied to God/Logic (Logos) this means God/Logic (Logos) is God/Logic (Logos) (logically) and that this is a tautology, true by definition.\n\n2: Law of Non-Contradiction: A can’t be “not A” validly: applied to God/Logic (Logos) this means it’s invalid to claim that God/Logic (Logos) is somehow “not God/Logic (Logos)”. This reinforces the Universal Truth coherent with God/Logic (Logos) and the tautology that God/Logic (Logos) is indeed God/Logic (Logos), as the application of the Law of Identity—to and coherent with God/Logic (Logos)—has already made certain.\n\n3: Law of the Excluded Middle: A is A and A is not A or A is and A is not cannot both be true and valid in the same context at the same time: applied to God/Logic (Logos) this means that it must be true that God/Logic (Logos) is God/Logic (Logos) and that “God/Logic (Logos) is” while it cannot also be true that God/Logic (Logos) is not God/Logic (Logos) and that “God/Logic (Logos) is not”. Any proposed fact/truth/statement that contradicts or denies Logos (God a.k.a.,Logic) is illogical and counterfactual/untrue.\n\n4: Principle of Sufficient Reason: Things must have Cause and Rational Support (Reason/Logos) and must coherent with Reason (Logos) to be valid, true, real, and logical: applied to God/Logic (Logos)—which is a term for the Origin of the Universe, the True God (the “Real Origin of Reality”) and the Perfect/Universal Method of Reasoning as it exists according to its own inherently valid structure beyond any illogic or misconceptions—God must be fully aligned with Reason and this “Principle of Sufficient Cause” as “Being” (and the Supreme Being), the “Moral Standard” (Moral Authority), and the “Universal Mind and Person” (Collective Consciousness) must also be.\n\n5: Modus Ponens: P implies Q and P is true therefore Q must also be true: applied to God/Logic (Logos): because God/Logic (Logos) implies the Origin of God/Logic (Logos) the existence of any instance or all instances of Logic, God, or Logos (Reason) means God/Logic (Logos) is true (aligned with fact and Reality).\n\n6: Modus Tollens: If P then Q. Not Q, therefore not P: applied to God/Logic (Logos): God/Logic (Logos) in any instance requires the Origin of God/Logic (Logos) therefore if we did not have any Origin of God/Logic (Logos) there would be no God/Logic (Logos) and no proof or Rationality (Reason). This is formal logical reasoning (logical proof) so we can be sure that contradiction arises from denial of the Logos (the Source of Proof).\n\n7: DeMorgans Law(s): The negation of A and B is the same as not A or not B, while the negation of A or B is the same as not A and not B: applied to God, Logic, Reason, and Logos: the negation of Logic and God is the same as “not Logic or not God”, while the negation of Logic or God is the same as “not Logic and not God”. To use a single term (Logos) for A and B we can say that the negation of Logos and Logos is the same as the negation of Logos or Logos, while the negation of Logos or Logos is the same as the negation of Logos and Logos. \n\nFormal Argument: \n\nUsing the Rules of Logic above, and their application to God, Logic, Reason, and Logos (as explained above) as premises:\n\n{1, 1 <-> 2, 2 <-> 3, 4 <-> 5, 5 <-> 6, 6 <-> 7}\n|= (((1 & 2) & (3 & 4) & 5) & 6) & 7\n\nConclusion: (((1 & 2) & (3 & 4) & 5) & 6) & 7:\n\nI conclude that God/Logic (Logos) (Law singular and universal) encompasses and is capable of integrating all logical rules (laws plural and/or particular). \n\nThese rules applied to God/Logic (Logos) and themselves lead to the necessary conclusion that God (the Origin of Existence) and Logic (the Method of Reasoning) must be and are demonstrated to be coherent (one). \n\nThis coherent God and Logic (Origin and Reason) is necessarily coherent with and logically equivalent to the Logical Structure of the Universe (Logos). \n\nWhatever someone wants to call the thing that supports/governs the Universe (God), and the thing that allows us to know about the Universe (Logic), they must be logically coherent  to not be logically incoherent.\n\nCommon terminology was used here (like Logic and God) but the substance of the conclusion is not ultimately a matter of subjective acceptance of specific terms. Rather it is a matter of the logical coherence and structure that allows for both Reality and thought/knowledge.\n\nPart 2:\n\nMaclain Hunter on the Rule(s) of Logic:\n\nThe Traditional Rules of Logic are three, and some thinkers add even more, but I understand that this is divergent and incoherent, not unified/coherent. If someone asked me what the Rules of Logic are, I might answer: \n\nThe traditional rules are: \n\n1) Identity: it must be so that A is A\n\n2) Non-Contradiction: it cannot be so that A is not A. \n\n3) Excluded Middle: a statement is either true or false with no middle ground, as even a partly true statement is ultimately false.\n\nBUT…\n\nThat is “incoherent” (not unified with, through, or as the Logic of Reality or “Logos”) and the question of what the “Rules” (plural) of Logic are overlooks that Logic (or “Logos”) is its (own) ONE and ONLY Law - its own Origin and Ruler, and the “Origin and Ruler (First Cause - God: defined as the First Principle and Cause of Logical Existence) of ALL Things”.\n\nThe Rule of Logic is: Logic \n\nThe Law of Reason is that: the Law of Reason must be (fully coherent with) and cannot contradict the Law of Reason.\n\nThis can be further described by a single description like saying: \n\nThe Law of Reason (which by Law can never contradict the Law of Reason (Logos) and must be the Law of Reason) is that Truth and Logical Validity fit and must align with Logic’s A is A form while falseness and invalidity fit and suffer from “A is not A” (contradictory) form - with a spectrum of possible intermediate logical positions, that contingent concepts can have, in between and relative to (independent and non-contingent) Pure Truth (and A is A form) - synonymous with Logos - and pure falseness (which is complete contradiction and “A is not A” form) - synonymous with nonexistence and that which cannot be logical/extant.\n\nApplication of the Rule of Logic (Law of Reason) also known as “the Logos”: \n\nTo apply the Rule of Logic in critical analysis it is a matter of analyzing, in a context sensitive manner, and accounting for the fact that x = y when both x and y equal c (as c equaling c satisfies the need for an A is A form), whether statements and ideas/connections match that A is A form and meet that requirement (or at least cannot be found in violation of it). Universal/Objective Truth may only match A is A form while “subjective truth” can be either “A is A” form or “A is not A” form, or indeed anything on the spectrum in between, but Objective (Universal) Truth (synonymous with Logos and Logic itself) encompasses and supersedes all subjective truths not fully aligned aligned with the Objective Logical Truth (Logic, also known as “God”). \n\nSelf-Existence and Self-Validation of the Rule of Logic (Logos): \n\nThe Rule of Logic is the Rule of Logic according to the Rule of Logic - which says in part but consistently that A must be A - and the Rule of Logic (Logos) not being the Rule of Logic (Logos) cannot be true or valid according to the Rule of Logic (Logos) - which also, as the other side of the same coin, says it cannot be so that A is “not A” (universally).\n\nProof: \n\nPremises: \n\nP: the Rule of Logic (A is A and Truth/Logic is Truth/Logic) which entails that God is and must be God.\n\nQ: not the Rule of Logic (A is not A and Truth/Logic is not Truth/Logic) which entails that God is not and does not need to be God.\n\nArgument:\n\n{P, P <-> P, P <-> ~Q} |= P & ~Q\n\nProof of Contradiction: \n\nAssume (P & Q) or {P, P -> Q} |= P and it leads to logical contradiction. It amounts to saying Logic is “not Logic” which is not Logic (Valid Order and Reasoning). To assume God (Logos) is not God (Logic) would mean that God’s output (Reality - All Existence) is not Reality (what Logic entails).\n\nConclusion:\n\nP & ~Q must be so while P & Q or P then Q cannot be so, according to Logic and P. God is God as Logic is Logic. I am that I am and cannot be “not me”. Truly it is part of the Rule of Logic and what it encompasses/entails that Logic is God since the Rule of Logic is Logic and is what makes Logic and All Things including Logic, the First Cause, and the True God (God) be Logic and All Things including Logic, the First Cause, and the True God (God). To separate God and Logic or deny Logic is God is to violate the Rule of Logic and embrace illogic, unresolved paradox, contradiction, and (rational) lawlessness. This is a Logos (Logic) aligned Objective Truth (Logic), as the True God (Logos) is a Logic (Logos) aligned God, and that supersedes, as a matter of Logic and the application of the Rule of Logic, all subjective opinions or views that may be contrary to the Rule of Logic or only partially aligned with Reason as Law (the Rule of Logic). \n\nPart 3: \n\nLogic Applied to Logic and Science:\n\nLogic Applied to Logic (LL):\n\nPremises:\n\nP: Identity: Logic is Logic\n\nQ: Non-Contradiction: Logic can’t be “not Logic”\n\nR: Excluded Middle: Logic is true and can’t be true and false at once.\n\nProof: \n\n{P <-> Q, Q <-> R} |= (P <-> Q) & (Q <-> R)\n\nConclusion: {P, Q, R}: \n\nLogic is must be Logic and must be true and cannot be “not Logic” or no true, according to Logic and the proper application of Logic to Logic itself.\n\nTruth Table: \n\nvalid\n\n     ↓   ↓       ↓      \n\nPQR⎪P↔Q Q↔R╞(P↔Q)&(Q↔R)\n\n――――――――――――――――――――――――\n\nTTT⎪TTT TTT  TTT T TTT \nTTF⎪TTT TFF  TTT F TFF \nTFT⎪TFF FFT  TFF F FFT \nTFF⎪TFF FTF  TFF F FTF \nFTT⎪FFT TTT  FFT F TTT \nFTF⎪FFT TFF  FFT F TFF \nFFT⎪FTF FFT  FTF F FFT \nFFF⎪FTF FTF  FTF T FTF \n\nLogic Applied to Science (LS): \n\nPremises: \n\nP: Question: This is the first step of the traditional scientific process that involves researching a problem or problems that the scientific method might be meaningfully applied to. This step is well aligned with Logic and breaks none of the three traditional Rules of Logic. \n\nQ: Form Hypothesis: This second step aligns with Logic well also and involves the scientist predicting what the expected outcome of the experimentation will be when applied to a particular question. This step helps to later understand whether predictions made with logical reasoning end up matching empirically observed Reality which can be useful in helping us to align our personal reasoning (“our logics”) with the Order inherent in Reality (“THE Logic” - the Logos - Objective Reason).\n\nR: Testing/Experimentation: Design test(s) in logically coherent fashion and perform the test(s) in a valid and consistent fashion. This step encompasses all feasible “logical valid testing methods” and gives broad leeway to scientific experimentation to achieve logically valid and scientifically rigorous results. The key thing that makes testing and experimentation valid and reliable is the combination of logical coherence and scientific rigor, which includes the notion that the more iterative one’s testing is the more reliable their results can be considered to be.\n\nS: Analyze Data and Report Conclusions: Gather and apply Logic to the experimental data to notice logical inconsistencies or flaws in the process, as well as to determine whether the results confirmed the hypothesis (and why or why not). These results and the relevant data supporting conclusions can and should be used to determine and report the conclusion(s) in a formal manner. This step is also logically relevant and coherent at this stage of the process, as it is the final step in gaining knowledge through a logically grounded scientific process. This step, like the others in the traditional scientific method aligns well with and doesn’t not contradict itself (internal consistency) or Logic (logical consistency). \n\nT: Assume the well ordered application of the scientific method as outlined in premises P, Q, R, and S was logically invalid and could not help us (scientists, logicians, etc.) gain knowledge. This assumption leads to logical contradiction where logically coherent science contradicts Logic - an untenable and unscientific position to hold, refuted by the usefulness of Science and all logically and scientifically valid results in Logic and Science.\n\nFormal Argument (Proof): \n\n{P, P -> Q, Q -> R, R -> S, S -> T} |= ((P & Q) & (R & S)) & T \n\nConclusion: \n\nThe steps of the traditional scientific method, represented by the atomic sentences {P, Q, R, S, T} flow logically one into the next, and each satisfy and do not violate Logic (as validated logically above), and this allows for coherent Science which is the logical derivation of knowledge through coherent empirical observation of controlled testing. If logically coherent Science were not a logically valid and scientific means of understanding Reality that would contradict Logic - thus we know it cannot be so and that logically coherent Science is reliable, logical, and valid. Logic remains the “Logical Standard” in Science just as the scientific method is the scientific method within Logic.\n\nTruth Table: \n\nvalid\n\n      ↓  ↓   ↓   ↓   ↓               ↓  \n\nPQRST⎪P P→Q Q→R R→S S→T╞((P&Q)&(R&S))&T\n\n――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――\n\nTTTTT⎪T TTT TTT TTT TTT   TTT T TTT  TT\nTTTTF⎪T TTT TTT TTT TFF   TTT T TTT  FF\nTTTFT⎪T TTT TTT TFF FTT   TTT F TFF  FT\nTTTFF⎪T TTT TTT TFF FTF   TTT F TFF  FF\nTTFTT⎪T TTT TFF FTT TTT   TTT F FFT  FT\nTTFTF⎪T TTT TFF FTT TFF   TTT F FFT  FF\nTTFFT⎪T TTT TFF FTF FTT   TTT F FFF  FT\nTTFFF⎪T TTT TFF FTF FTF   TTT F FFF  FF\nTFTTT⎪T TFF FTT TTT TTT   TFF F TTT  FT\nTFTTF⎪T TFF FTT TTT TFF   TFF F TTT  FF\nTFTFT⎪T TFF FTT TFF FTT   TFF F TFF  FT\nTFTFF⎪T TFF FTT TFF FTF   TFF F TFF  FF\nTFFTT⎪T TFF FTF FTT TTT   TFF F FFT  FT\nTFFTF⎪T TFF FTF FTT TFF   TFF F FFT  FF\nTFFFT⎪T TFF FTF FTF FTT   TFF F FFF  FT\nTFFFF⎪T TFF FTF FTF FTF   TFF F FFF  FF\nFTTTT⎪F FTT TTT TTT TTT   FFT F TTT  FT\nFTTTF⎪F FTT TTT TTT TFF   FFT F TTT  FF\nFTTFT⎪F FTT TTT TFF FTT   FFT F TFF  FT\nFTTFF⎪F FTT TTT TFF FTF   FFT F TFF  FF\nFTFTT⎪F FTT TFF FTT TTT   FFT F FFT  FT\nFTFTF⎪F FTT TFF FTT TFF   FFT F FFT  FF\nFTFFT⎪F FTT TFF FTF FTT   FFT F FFF  FT\nFTFFF⎪F FTT TFF FTF FTF   FFT F FFF  FF\nFFTTT⎪F FTF FTT TTT TTT   FFF F TTT  FT\nFFTTF⎪F FTF FTT TTT TFF   FFF F TTT  FF\nFFTFT⎪F FTF FTT TFF FTT   FFF F TFF  FT\nFFTFF⎪F FTF FTT TFF FTF   FFF F TFF  FF\nFFFTT⎪F FTF FTF FTT TTT   FFF F FFT  FT\nFFFTF⎪F FTF FTF FTT TFF   FFF F FFT  FF\nFFFFT⎪F FTF FTF FTF FTT   FFF F FFF  FT\nFFFFF⎪F FTF FTF FTF FTF   FFF F FFF  FF\n\nMeta-Proof (LL <-> LS): \n\nLL: Logic applied to Logic and the Logic of Logic.\n\nLS: Logic applied to Science and the Logic of Science.\n\n{LL <-> LS} |= LL & LS\n\nConclusion: \n\nLL & LS entails “Coherent Science and Logic”, validated formally by Logic. Logic remains the “Logical Standard” in Science just as the scientific method is the scientific method within Logic.\n\nPart 4:\n\nMeta-Proof: \n\nP1: Part 1: [see above]\n\nP2: Part 2: [see above]\n\nP3: Part 3: [see above]\n\nFormal Argument (Proof): \n\n{P1 <-> P2, P2 <-> P3} |= (P1 & P2) & P3\n\nConclusion: (P1 & P2) & P3:\n\nThe combination of all the proofs and formal philosophical treatises above holds, as to deny any piece denies Logic and to acknowledge any piece acknowledges Logic. To acknowledge the very existence of this writing is to acknowledge what could not exist if the Logos did not exist. Any such engagement or acknowledgement means that the rest of the arguments and the Meta-Proof follows logically and that God is Logic - inherent in all logics and sciences, and all instances (and the general concept(s)) of evidence and proof. This proof could not even be invalid if there is no Logos (Logical Standard coherent with the Origin of Logic). 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